Racist and Ignorant McCain/Palin Supporters in Ohio
Oct 10 at 11:11am by Jagwire X
I ran across a couple of interesting blog posts in which some enterprising bloggers (Blogger Interrupted and BlueOhioan) got their cameras out and asked people standing in line for a McCain Palin rally in Ohio what they thought about Barack Obama, John McCain and Sarah Palin. It’s truly scary. I don’t mean like kind of scary like Halloween, I mean really truly terrifying like Nazi Germany.
From Blogger Interrupted:
It’s no wonder that the slightest incitement from Sarah Palin or John McCain will turn one of their rallies into a lynch mob. Just talk to the folks who attend.
My camera was rolling for literally seconds before people happily said to me, on camera, that Barack Obama is a terrorist. If I hadn’t spent most of my time at the event inside, waiting for the candidates to show up, I could have gotten dozens of these people on tape.
The McCain-Palin mob in Strongsville, Ohio
The McCain-Palin mob in Strongsville, Ohio
Anthony Fossaceca of BlueOhioan:
These people will stop at nothing to further spread the lies and hate that surround that campaign. Bill Ayers, Osama bin Laden, Muslim terrorists, Hamas, PLO, Arab - all things we heard in connection to Barack Obama in yesterday’s crowd line at the Strongsville McCain rally.
Hate First
The one of the things that strikes me in these videos is how ill-informed these people are, and how hateful. These people want John McCain and Sarah Palin in office because it will allow their magnificently tiny worlds to go on existing in their heads. I got news for you people, the future is coming and you my sad pathetic creatures are the dinosaurs.
The other thing that really gets me is how these people just seem to think that, well, how well do we really know Barack Obama? And I think, how well do you really know John McCain?
Well, let me tell you, he known to be unethical. He cheated on his first wife (who was disabled due to a car accident in 1969) with his soon to be second wife, he was involved in the Savings and Loan Scandal in the 1980’s and was known as one of the Keating Five. I don’t care that he’s expressed remorse for these acts - it shows that he is capable of them and reflects on his character. The fact that John McCain is veteran of the Vietnam War and was a POW does nothing to bolster my faith in him. I’ve know a lot of ‘nam veterans and everyone one of them is unstable and suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. That doesn’t mean they aren’t war heroes and it doens’t mean their bad people but if we need a “steady hand at the tiller” then John McCain certainly isn’t it.
McCain and Palin’s allegations toward Barack Obama are, if you bother to look at the facts, completely unfounded, and are being used to create a boogey-man out of Obama. To his credit Obama has remained very steady and unlike McCain has stayed focused on the issue which is what you as citizens should really care about!
There seems to be a strange attraction to the right wing of the political eagle in this country of the very wealthy and the ignorant despite the rather large gap between the two. It’s as if being a dumbass has now become some sort of badge of honor for the right. This is something I am going to have to write about in a follow up post, so be on the look out for that.
Racist, Fascist and Lying Their Heads Off
Oct 8 at 2:02pm by Jagwire X
McCain is behind in the polls because he has no real plan for the average citizen and Obama does and anyone that’s paying the least bit of attention knows it. So how does the McCain campaign react? Do they get their shit together and come up with a plan other than “the heels are on, the gloves are off?” No, they don’t, they rely on attacks against their opponent, more and more lying and general fascist attitudes. It’s become clear now that the McCain/Palin team is composed of and attracts racists and fascists. There is little doubt about the kind of administration we would get should they get into office. One that would transform America from the Land of the Free to the Land of the Oppressed.
At this point Sarah “Pit-Bull” Palin’s campaign rallies have apparently degenerated into some sort of neo-nazi pseudo-pogroms against the media and Barack Obama.
Dana Milbank of the Washington Post wrote:
Barack Obama, she told 8,000 fans at a rally here Monday afternoon, “launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist!” This followed her earlier accusation that the Democrat pals around with terrorists. “This is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America,” she told the Clearwater crowd. “I’m afraid this is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country.” The crowd replied with boos.
McCain had said that racially explosive attacks related to Obama’s former pastor, the Rev.Jeremiah Wright, are off limits. But Palin told New York Times columnist Bill Kristol in an interview published Monday: “I don’t know why that association isn’t discussed more.”
Worse, Palin’s routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric’s questions for her “less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media.” At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, “Sit down, boy.”
Palin says, “This is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America.” You’re right Sarah he doesn’t see America the way you see it, he sees it the way our founders saw it. He sees it as Benjamin Franklin saw it when he wrote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
She goes on to say, “[Obama] is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country.”
In February 2008 (long before it even became a “topic” of the McCain campaign), Obama spokesman Bill Burton released a statement from the senator about the relationship between the two: “Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.”
CNN’s review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the non-profit projects in which the two men were involved. Internal reviews by The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time magazine, The Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic “have said that their reporting doesn’t support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship”.
That’s a lot of news sources saying the same thing for them to all be wrong.
Oh, and, dear Sarah, your interview with Katie Couric went off so awfully because you are an idiot. You think the mainstream media is liberal but you are wrong, if anything in their attempt to be impartial they favor the conservatives because of the Right’s over vocal attacks. In this case I am referring to the fact that if the McCain campaign attacks Obama the media will generally not look into facts but will rather just say, “Oh, well here’s the equivalent attack from the Obama campaign.” That’s not journalism, that’s equivocation.
Meanwhile rallies that McCain himself attends the crowd is no better.
Greg Sargent from Talking Points Memo writes:
After John McCain delivered the central question of his speech today — “Who is the real Barack Obama?” — the first, and loudest, supporter seems to yell:
“Terrorist!”
McCain listens as his planted crowd member yells terrorist
That’s what John Aravosis and Marc Ambinder heard, and it does sound like it.
Who is the real Barack Obama? Are you really asking? Who the fuck is the real John McCain and what have you done with him?
This really pisses me off to no end. I hate smear tactics, and have no tolerance for people who are so desperate for their power grab that they will sink to these depths, demonstrating their obviously racist bent using typical fascist tactics of scaremongering and party supporters planted in the crowd to whip them into a frenzy. What will the McCain/Palin campaign October Surprise be? A black man committing a domestic terror act?
Spoonamore Reveals the Plan to Steal the 2008 Presidential Election
Oct 1 at 10:10am by Jagwire X
It may be crazy — or then again maybe not. I guess we will see come November 5th when all the “votes” are in.
New Spoonamore Interview - E-voting Machines are a National Security Threat
Last week, Velevet Revolution interviewed GOP Cyber security expert Stephen Spoonamore about the upcoming election and his testimony in the new Ohio litigation to take depositions of Karl Rove and others.
The video is posted in full below with ten short clips for You Tube viewing. This interview is so important and explosive that we urge everyone to watch it.
Spoonamore says that the GOP wanted e-voting to steal elections but now foreign governments will be hacking and the winner will be determined by the best hackers. He says that if the GOP wins the hacking competition, McCain will win 51.2 percent with three electoral votes over Obama, and it will be a stolen election.
Spoon also makes a crucial point about the people who have been implicated in much of the election theft: “They are religious extremists.” He names those who know about stolen elections, and he insists that the only way to protect this election is with paper ballots, hand-counted.
Check out this extraordinary interview after the jump.
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Why Conservatives are OK with Palin Not Talking to the Media
Sep 25 at 2:02pm by Jagwire X
And why they think this is the Sign of a Strong Leader
Found on reddit and written by marko34. I don’t think I could have summed this up more concisely.
I think you have to consider the CONSERVATIVE (not Republican) mindset.
Conservatives are interested in what’s called a “strict father” mentality. In this mentality, the strict father makes all the decisions, and whether or not you agree, or are familiar with the reasons behind the decisions, is beside the point. These are the decisions, live with them. Hence, “I’m the decider.”
This is why Conservatives go along with whatever their leaders tell them. They vote in their leaders/”fathers” based on personality & identification, and basically “trust” them (the leaders) to do whatever they think is right. If they (the voters) agree, great. If they don’t, it doesn’t matter. The voters granted their trust on election day, and that’s it.
From this, it follows that Conservatives aren’t interested in their candidate showing depth or competence. Look at George W. Bush! As long as s/he speaks to them in their “gut”, or if they personally identify with their candidate, that’s all that matters.
Following further on, in their view the press also can’t be trusted. It’s the “liberal media” remember?
So in absence of the press being important, or even relevant in their view, all that matters is speaking engagements. The more places that Sarah Palin can speak, the more she can rile up the base, and the more she can deliver those applause lines that speak to the “gut” rather than the brain, the better. Hence the Bush-like “loyalty rallies.”
This in no way has anything to do with her being a strong leader. It’s all in service of propping up her “image” to the base, and speaking to their mindset. I can assure you, the McCain campaign will do NOTHING that isn’t necessary that will risk shattering her image to the base (which would basically be putting her in a position which she might demonstrate weakness or lack of certainty, like answering unpredictable press questions).
It’s only the rest of us, the reasoning, thinking people, that these things are important to.
It remains to be seen, then, if the independents are going to buy into this, if they’ll react to the “strict father” authoritarian mentality, or if they’ll be convinced to think differently.
You can make a difference, btw, by writing to a news outlet of your choice and DEMANDING that they ask her questions. Put pressure on the news outlets, not the candidate. She ain’t listening.
[NOTE: By "Conservative" I am referring to a subset of the Republican party. Not fiscal or social conservatives, but a radical authoritarian wing and its followers that has gained control of the party over the past few years/decades. They call themselves "Conservatives", having stolen the term from true conservative people. So that is the term I use. It also contrasts philosophically with the term "Progressive". Just in case this is still on the front page tomorrow and people are curious about my use of terminology. If you know a better term, for example Robert Reich uses 'radcon' to mean "Radical Conservative", I'm all in favor of it.]
[NOTE 2: Yes in some ways this can apply to some members of the Democratic party, as well. Or ANY party, really. We all have the "strict father" mentality hardwired into our brains somehow. I am merely attempting to explain why Republicans/Conservatives are largely ok with it, because it is their primary active framework, and why, contrary to our intuition, it works for them.]
[NOTE 3: Credit where credit is due. These ideas are based on the brilliant work by George Lakoff, whose book "Don't Think of An Elephant" is a far better and more in-depth exploration of these topics.]
Looks like it’s a nice sucker’s buy in to the patriarchal Judeo-Christian mindset.
Which one is the Elitist?
Sep 22 at 8:08pm by Jagwire X
Talk about fucking ridiculous. The GOP continues to make Obama out to be an elitist and yet he lives relatively humbly while McCain can’t even remember how many homes he owns at times.
Seriously, McCain is a disgusting pig whose sanity is questionable and is unfit to lead anything. Palin is gold digging political opportunist who doesn’t know jack about national, not to mention international, politics. McCain has totally abandoned the issues (and in fact he is incapable of handling questions about most of them) and his campaign tactics have switched to manipulative name calling, outright lies and even thinly veiled racism. McCain calls Obama an elitist but, as is often the case, he’s the true elitist: White, Rich and Protestant.
Obama may not be the perfect candidate but I think he’s pretty honest for a politician and at least he seems to have a degree of integrity. I generall like Biden and he is certainly fully knowledgeable in foreign affairs. I do think his campaign is not aggressive enough toward McCain/Palin.
If I was hiring the president and vice-president based on their educational backgrounds the choice would be even more clear:
Obama - B.A. Political Science from Columbia University, J.D. of Law (magna cum laude) from Harvard Law School
Biden - B.A. History, B.A. Political Science from University of Delware, J.D. of Law from Syracuse University College of Law
McCain - Graduated from the United States Naval Academy
Palin - B.S. Communication-Journalism from University of Idaho (after attending five different colleges)
Educationally they come out of the wash as Obama/Biden representing Diplomacy, Community and Order while McCain/Palin come out at Marketing and War.
So if having a good education makes you an elitist then everyone should want to be one.
The Blind, the Clueless, and the Mentally Disturbed vote McCain/Palin
Sep 9 at 10:10am by Jagwire X
I can’t help myself - I have to say it. Anyone, anyone at all, who votes for McCain/Palin is either blind to the truth, utterly clueless when it comes to their claims or mentally disturbed and living in a universe where supernatural entities exist.
The two of them are out and out liars. Neither is a maverick. How can McCain be a maverick and about change and reform when he’s been a Washington insider for more than 20 years? He certainly doesn’t represent the everyman and everywoman - only those who can afford multiple houses. Even his choice for running mate isn’t a maverick concept - the democrats already did that 24 years ago. Palin a maverick? Hardly she bellies up to the pork barrel bar just like any other self-serving politician does.
The best we could hope for if they are elected is four more years of the same. In all likelihood it would be worse - much worse - for everyone. Oh, the evangelical armegeddonists would be happy. I could only hope that China would tank the dollar at that point - not something I really want to see happen but better than letting the end-timers have their wet dream become a reality.
If McCain/Palin are elected the chances of Palin assuming the mantle of president are unfortunately too high what with McCain being as old as he is he is liable to expire while in office. Do you really want someone with so little regard for others, so inexperienced (yes, far more inexperienced than Barack Obama), so extreme in her religious views to be president?
Anyone swayed by the insubstantial drivel McCain and Palin spout is a sucker. And I’ll gladly argue with any McCain/Palin supporters who think I’m full of it. And yes, if you support McCain/Palin I do think I’m smarter and wiser than you because only the ignorant would fall for their bull shit.
John McCain, the new Ronald Reagan?
Jul 29 at 12:12pm by Jagwire X
Pretty Good Timetable
I don’t mean in a good way either. I feel bad for anyone with Alzheimer’s but John McCain has worse memory issues than Ronald Reagan. That’s really not fair, even to Ronald Reagan, his memory problems didn’t start until late in his presidency. More likely McCain is a pathological liar. Maybe he’s just a bit deranged.
So you were probably thinking the other day, after all the chastising McCain has directed toward Obama for pushing a timetable for withdrawing from Iraq he wouldn’t go on CNN and supported a timetable himself. He did, clever fellow. One day McCain said he thought sixteen months was a “pretty good timetable”, the next say he claimed never to have said the word “timetable.” Funny.
But wait there’s more. McCain is too weak to keep his policy straight what with the chronic changes and denials in his statement. His shoot from the hip demeanor that the media seems to love so much must certainly lead to some interesting backtracking in the McCain camp. Why isn’t the media calling him out on this? Who knows. The media has always liked McCain for some reason and seem willing to give him a pass for just about any foible.
The Real McCain 2
Make no mistake McCain will be worst than the currently assumed worst president. How anyone could believe this guy is beyond me. If he’s such an obvious liar then even the staunchest Republican’s should question him. If he suffering from memory impairment do we really need someone sitting in the Oval office who is going to forget what the big red button is for? No thanks.
This is a guy whose memory is so sharp that he has missed more than half of the roll-call votes since January 2007. At this point it is more than any other senator including Senator Tim Johnson who spent most of 2007 recuperating from a brain hemorrhage. He even forgot to vote on money for Iraq and Afghanistan and the new GI Bill which he opposes. If he can’t be bothered to do his current job how can he be expected to act as president should he manage to win somehow?
General Clark’s Comments on John McCain
Jul 10 at 3:03pm by Jagwire X
Face the Nation
There’s been a bunch of hub-bub about what Wes Clark said about John McCain. It took no time for the what he actually said to get completely distorted.
GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a matter of understanding risk. It’s a matter of gauging your opponents, and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in Armed Forces as a prisoner of war. He has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive responsibility. That large squadron in Air- in the Navy that he commanded, it wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say, ‘I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How do we handle it-’
Bob Schieffer: Well-
GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: ‘ -it publicly.’ He hasn’t made those calls, Bob.
Bob Schieffer: Well, well, General, maybe-
GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: So-
Bob Schieffer: Could I just interrupt you. If-
GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Sure.
Bob Schieffer: I have to say, Barack Obama has not had any of those experiences either, nor has he ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down. I mean-
GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Well, I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be President.
Bob Schieffer: Really?!
Note that Bob Schieffer is the one that says “ridden in a figher plane and gotten shot down.” Clark does not in anyway question John McCain’s military service. Clark does state the fact that McCain’s command was not a wartime command but even then doesn’t do anything but state known facts. What he’s saying is that McCain military experience doesn’t make him any more qualified to be president than Barack Obama.
When it comes to experience Obama is more qualified than our current president, who, if you will recall, was a state governor and had absolutely no experience on the national level when he took office.
The plain truth of the matter is that getting riding (was McCain really riding and not piloting?) in a fighter plane and getting shot down and having military service don’t really count as qualifications for president.
See, the thing is, it isn’t.
Kerry: McCain’s judgment ‘dangerous,’
Jul 9 at 11:11am by Jagwire X
Face The Nation
“John McCain has changed in profound and fundamental ways that I find personally really surprising, and frankly upsetting,” said Democratic Senator John Kerry in a Sunday appearance on CBS’s Face the Nation. “This is a different John McCain. This is not the Senator John McCain; this is want-to-be president John McCain.”
John Hagee: Idiot or Genius?
May 22 at 11:11pm by Jagwire X
The correct answer is idiot. Charismatic apparently but then so was Hitler - didn’t make him right.
John McCain actively sought John Hagee’s backing and says he’s “very honored” and “very proud” to have it. Yesterday, a recording surfaced of Hagee “explaining” that God sent Hitler to perpetrate the Holocaust because Jews weren’t moving to Israel.
Hagee has said: Hitler stated when he came to power: ‘I am not going to do anything that has not been done by the Roman Church for the last 800 years. I am only going to do it on a greater scale and more efficiently.’… God has said: ‘I gave you [the Jews] the time to repent and you did not.’
I don’t know if I need to say any more. The word idiot comes to mind first.
Here are some other reasons he’s an idiot:
Hagee supports an American-Israeli pre-emptive military strike on Iran.
That’s clever for a “Christian” to call for violence. Can you spell hypocrite?
“Christians don’t steal or lie, they don’t get divorced or have abortions. If the Ten Commandments were followed by everyone we would be able to fire half the police force and in six months the prisons would be all half empty.”
Aren’t you missing a few commandments there? How does that fit with a pre-emptive strike in Iran? If you are soliciting other Christians to kill then you are the murderer not them.
Hagee calls literature such as J. K. Rowling’s Harry Potter contemporary witchcraft.
And so what is it is, which it isn’t. It’s called fiction - that means it’s made up John.
Hagee believes in the “baptism of the Holy Spirit“, the “absolute authority of the scripture“, miraculous healing, anointing with oil, baptism by immersion, evangelism, and the “worship of the Lord through singing, clapping, and the lifting of hands“.
Argh! Makes me want to rend my shirt! I thought this was the year 2008 not 1008 and we had a better understanding of the world that didn’t include supernatural explanations and worship of gods. Other than Odin I mean.
“Most readers will be shocked by the clear record of history linking Adolf Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews.”
Say what? Where is that again?










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